Simpson Speaks and We See UPDATE

24 Aug

Bill Simpson was interviewed on TV (6 News), The Indy Channel talking about his helmet, video here.  This marks the first time he has publicly spoke about the helmet and there are some interesting things we have learned because of it.

1. As reported in the comment section of the last post about the helmet, Simpson has sold Impact Racing to focus on football helmet making.

2. The shell is very thin

3. Made of carbon kevlar, making it half the weight of weigh less than traditional helmets

4. NOCASE approved

5. Unique energy dispersing material

6. The profile and “sit” of the helmet is also different from the traditional helmets

Regardless of where the process is at, I feel that Simpson brings a unique and important product to the field this year.  Only time will tell if the helmet will provide further protection for the football player but having more “tools” in the tool box certainly is not a bad thing.

All images are screen grabs from the above video interview.

UPDATE 14:00: From the c0mments below the face mask shown on the Simpson/Ganassi Helmet was ID’ed as a youth face mask.  Also traditional helmets are weighing nearer the 4 lb. mark versus the 6 lb. mark.  The final cost point will be interesting to see.  (I emailed the commenter and have verified his credentials).

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34 Responses to “Simpson Speaks and We See UPDATE”

  1. Glenn August 24, 2011 at 12:23 #

    Just to point out a few pieces of Simpson’s hyperbole… the helmet is not half the weight of regular helmets. There are no six pound helmets on the field anymore. Most helmets are 4 lb and change. Plus, the Simpson helmet they weighed in the story had an OPO type of faceguard – noone except Pop Warner players wear those. A “real” faceguard will increase the weight to close to 4 lb. Which is lighter than most helmets but not by half.

    It’s going to follow in the steps of his gear at Impact Racing: very expensive. Worth it? Who knows? But the carbon kevlar material will likely put this helmet in the $500-$600 range.

    Will be interesting to see how this unfolds.

    • Dustin Fink August 24, 2011 at 13:52 #

      Those are some very important details, thank you for submitting that Glenn…

    • Kenny August 24, 2011 at 21:12 #

      Glen, be careful what you say unless you have all the facts or have talked to BIll or Chip or anyone involved, The Heltmet Polamalu has is way under half the weight of his standard helmet including face guard. I think you are wrong on the price, but if you not, whats a Concussion worth?

      • tjstotz@yahoo.com July 24, 2014 at 16:06 #

        I am seeing them sell just under $400.

  2. LJ Berra August 24, 2011 at 14:47 #

    Doesn’t Kevlar shatter when it fails, rather than crack?

    • evanbio August 26, 2011 at 13:03 #

      I was wondering something similar. Essentially, how durable is the helmet. Race helmets are only considered to be “good” until they’ve been in a wreck, similar to childs car seats. Football helmets are in constant collision. I would think this type of helmet would need to be replaced after any hit to the ground/other helmet.

  3. Glenn August 25, 2011 at 08:47 #

    @Kenny: You’re absolutely right about knowing everything and I’d love to get the chance to talk to Simpson about his helmet and find out more details. But Polamalu was wearing a Riddell Speed last year, which weighs 3 lb. 15 oz with a typical facemask. The Simpson helmet weighs 3+ lb with a small faceguard on it. It appeared to me to be 3 lb 10 oz but I can’t say that with certainty. The math isn’t there.

    There simply are no more 6 lb helmets on the field any longer, unless the player is wearing a large, custom facemask.

    It’s hyperbole that he’s making a 2 lb helmet. Simpson is correct about the physics but he’s making claims that the media isn’t checking out – which is good for him. Actually Riddell, Rawlings, Xenith and Schutt are making 2 lb helmets, too, if you take off the facemask.

    In terms of cost, you’re engaging in a disingenuous argument. Of course, no parent or player in the world would say $600 is too much to pay for their safety. But a very large percentage of them are precluded from buying such a helmet because of financial restraints. Not to say that such a helmet is bad, but isn’t it better to try to deploy technology in such a way that it’s affordable by the most people, especially the players (youth) who need it the most?

    Simpson is following the same product/pricing model he did with Impact Racing – making very expensive equipment for a very small percentage of his potential audience. I am not saying his ideas/technology/helmet are bad. I agree with Dustin in that it’s another tool in the battle against head injuries and that’s a good thing. But the hyperbole needs to be reigned in.

    • jonny August 28, 2011 at 00:39 #

      @Glenn ..You know your stuff.. Did you work/compete against Impact.. simpson had to do something for the name. I would not trust anything simpson is in involved in!

      • Glenn Beckmann August 31, 2011 at 22:36 #

        @jonny: Actually, I work in the sporting goods industry – specifically within football. So, no, my company does not work or compete against Impact.

        As I said, I know very little of the history of Simpson with NASCAR. I do know that Impact seems to focus its product development on very expensive gear for a small portion of the market. And they appear to be very successful at it. They seem to be following that same MO with this football helmet.

  4. G.Malcolm Brown February 3, 2013 at 06:11 #

    How many smart people does it take to change a helmet concept…that has caused more than 20,000,000 concussions to players of all ages….?

    The helmet shell CAUSES concussions when hitting into other players ….they don’t prevent …

    The shock wave of energy from two hard shells hitting is measured in less than twenty m/seconds..! Less than one fifth of a second…and the recoil doubles the impacts effect on brain matter..

    Kevlar hard shells hit as hard as carbon fiber shells…Five Star shells hurt other players as much as Three Star shells…

    The facts are on the books and in papers…hard shelled helmets are the problem……peeking inside at different pads or weighing them is not the solution…

    • Dan Kelleher February 5, 2013 at 19:06 #

      What is the solution? Is there an alternative to hard shell helmets?

      • G.Malcolm Brown February 6, 2013 at 11:36 #

        Dan,

        Thanks for the question,,,the answer is logical,,,

        And we have designed headgear that protects — and most importantly does not harm..

        The health risk of a young football player is the ELEVEN HARD HELMETS running toward him…the helmet he wares is not protection , it focuses the H/H hit shock wave into his brain…it bounces off the incoming helmet and redirects his skull motion..rotational forces are multiplied…spinning the brain relative to skull direction..

        Doctors noticed an increase in concussions back in 1959, as soon as hard shells took over on the football fields…..AMA journals were filled with warnings..

        —- Who can look at kids with hard helmets running at each other,,,and wonder why they get concussions…?
        It’s like asking kids to play dodge ball with four pound bowling balls…while having a hollow bowling ball slipped over their heads ..

        Yes we have come to see helmets as shiny hard things,,with heavy metal grills ‘ to protect’,,,,against those other hard shiny helmets…!

        Hard hats are great when hot rivets fall at a construction site and bounce away from a workman…but hard shelled football helmet have proved themselves to be a total failure…millions of times over.

        The industry has resorted to saying ,,,”no helmet can be made concussion proof “….maybe true if they have to protect a player from those same hard shiny helmets..they are the weapon causing the H/H hits…and the concussions..!…where do they think the forces are coming from..?

        The recent narration of,,”players are bigger now” ,,, does not pan out as youth football hits measured lately by VT show 80+ G hits — from middle school kids…

        Reduce the hardness of the outside of headgear and two things happen ,, no harm is inflicted — and no damage is received…. Forces are absorbed over a longer time frame and no bonce back…!

        If you double the time frame– the forces are reduced ,,not in half but to one quarter..our design will spread the impact over more than four times…what now results in 80G forces will be well below 20 Gs…and lesser hits 20 Gs to well below 5 Gs…

        Recent studies show how even mild hits can total up to brain damage with long term results….!
        Also most of the rotational forces are reduced …and millions of concussions need never happen…

        The great progress in designing RTP schedules for kids who get hurt is great…but not getting a concussion in the first place should be the goal…!

        Thanks,
        G. Malcolm Brown

  5. Glenn Beckmann February 6, 2013 at 12:14 #

    Wow. Where to begin with this litany of biased, nonsensical information. I’m not even sure where to start with your reply G. Malcom Brown as I can’t really tell where one thought/sentence ends and the next begins.

    Be that as it may, to Dan the OP, I’ll try to give you the perspective of the helmet maker, as I work for Schutt Sports – the leading manufacturer of football helmets in the country.

    Not sure which product Mr. Bown is trying to showcase/propose as a solution, but there are inherent flaws in “soft helmets.” (besides the fact that soft helmets have been tried and failed several times before, including leather helmets, as well the infamous Pro Cap of the mid 80s).

    Hard football helmets are designed the way they are for a couple of reasons: First, they’re designed to be hard in order for them to bounce off each during incidental contact. The less time Helmet A is in direct contact with Helmet B, the less energy (force) is transferred from A to B (and vice versa). While we are discussing impacts measured in micro seconds, the time duration of impact is a large factor in the causation of concussions. So if we can reduce the time duration of impact, that’s a plus for the player. Helmets deflecting off each other do just that.

    Helmets are basically spherical for the same reason; rounded objects reflect off each better than helmets with straight lines and edges. I honestly have no idea where Mr. Brown gets the idea that hard, spherical objects designed to deflect off each other actually increase the rotational forces on a player.

    Conversely, soft-sided objects will stay together for a longer period of time, because of increased friction between the two objects, thereby INCREASING the time duration of impact and allowing more energy (force) to be transferred from Helmet A to Helmet B. The result is a greater impact.

    The second result of the increased friction between two soft sided objects is the increase in rotational forces on the head and torque on the neck. The increased friction increases the length of time the two objects are time, thus imparting even more rotational forces and torque. Most medical experts believe now that these rotational forces cause the majority of concussions and MTBIs. So increasing the rotational forces and torque is not a step in the right direction.

    The idea of using softer helmets or, alternatively, getting rid of helmets all together, is a popular notion these days, albeit misguided. In the situation of no helmets at all, you’re simply swapping one set of injuries for another. Yes, concussions would likely go down as players inevitably would be more reluctant to stick their heads into an impact.

    On the other hand, we would simply be resetting the evolutionary clock of football back 70-80 years when there were far more critical injuries such as fractured skulls, broken jaws, lacerations, subdural hematomas and others.

    Football helmets in their current form were originally designed to eliminate these type of external injuries. And despite the gigantic hyperbole from Mr. Brown, have been undeniably successful to their original purpose – millions of times over. It has been decades since we’ve seen a fractured skull on the football field.

    No football helmet is concussion proof (at least any that can be worn on the field) and helmets, when used improperly, are most certainly used as weapons on the field. But the idea that a soft-sided helmet is the solution is a flight of fantasy at this point.

    • Dustin Fink February 6, 2013 at 13:05 #

      Go get’em Glenn!!!

      Great post and spot on, on all accounts… Soft sided or removal of helmets would be FAR more dangerous to the player. If one had to choose between a broken neck/skull fracture or concussion, I think the later is the wiser choice…

      That being said remember, the concussion – actual injury – is not the massive issue… It’s the mismanagement of the brain injury that has put us where we are today…

      Taking concussions out of football, or any sport for that matter is nearly impossible, one would would have better luck trying to eradicate ankle sprains…

      If everyone would take a step back, accept the injury of concussion (as we have with ACL, rotator cuff, etc.) and find and adhere to the proper recovery from this injury then this problem would cease to be a “problem”, all aspects.

      • G.Malcolm Brown February 6, 2013 at 16:56 #

        FINK,

        Thanks for giving up on improving the situation.

        You know the old FORD model T had plate glass windows …people were cut in half by them , even during low speed crashes…things change for reasons…!

        Millions of concussions have been caused by hard shelled helmets. .. totally preventable..!

        Things can change and sports can be safer for everyone involved..

        Thanks,
        G. Malcolm Brown

      • Dustin Fink February 6, 2013 at 17:39 #

        Giving up? Seriously?

        The Model T analogy would be better fit with the change from NO helmet to helmet then hard helmet… People were losing their LIVES due to skull fractures, even the soft sided version could not remove this danger from the sport. It took hard helmets to achieve this… The only way to prevent concussions is to limit exposure to ZERO, no one wants that…

        Millions of lives have been spared due to hard helmets, your point?

        Things can change, and will change, however one must identify the root of the problem first. Its no good changing a light bulb if the breaker is tripped due to being overloaded… The root of the issue is NOT the concussion, its how it is ID’ed and handled from ALL PARTIES… Slapping a band-aid on your forehead has just a good a chance at preventing concussions as soft sided helmets… Heck you can promote whatever you want for a “better” helmet, but as it stands now it would not prevent or even reduce concussions… And even if it did just that, would it be worth it if the result was more neck and skull fractures?

        If someone can come up with a polymer that will absorb impact without increasing friction, therefore increase torque or rotational forces, then we might be getting somewhere… Anyone know of that??? If so bring it forward…

        BTW, a little bit of knowledge for you; if any player were to wear a “concussion proof” helmet or no helmet, and was to be hit in the torso with enough unanticipated forces it caused the head to accelerate/decelerate or rotate with enough vigor one would still get a concussion, period! Its not the helmet…

        And yes, I have probably provided the MOST ideas (in the world, literally) in getting this thing worked out. From strengthening, nutrition, practice habits, exposure limitations, and recovery/management… Don’t you dare come on here telling me I am giving up…

      • G.Malcolm Brown February 6, 2013 at 17:55 #

        Thank you again,

        You sure have it covered..

        So why were there hundreds of thousands of concussions last season..?

        And if you are open to new improvements in technology as you state , please don’t assume the present day helmets are the solution….

        Yes whip lash is sometimes a cause of concussions, but H/H hits are most often the cause, and are preventable….!

        By improving the helmet design..!

        Thanks,
        G. Malcolm Brown
        .

      • Dustin Fink February 6, 2013 at 23:14 #

        State your source that H/H hits are the cause of most concussions…. Secondly, please state your source that linear impacts are the source of most concussions…

        Linear impacts are hardly the problem here, any concussion researcher will tell you this… The overwhelming incidence of concussion comes from acceleration and deceleration of the brain INSIDE the skull… Moreover, the rotational sheering of the brain upon glancing blows is also the cause… Having a soft sided helmet will only increase the later… As for the former they do a great job for that…

        You also do a great job if ignoring both the actual Physic’s of a concussion and not addressing the head/neck fractures that less protection would encompass…

        If you have all the answers and the product then state them here, better yet send it to me, I will review it – along with others in the concussion ‘biz’ and we will post…

    • G.Malcolm Brown February 6, 2013 at 16:22 #

      Dear Glen Beck,

      You are aware of the study done at VT…where the peak transfer of forces is within a fraction of a second..and the recoil of hard shelled helmets doubles the concussion causing forces on the brain.

      The bounce is a major contributor to concussions not a cure..and angular deflection causes rotational forces spinning the skull…!

      The motion of the skull is the cause of concussions … forces from the helmet accelerate the skull in relation to the brain… the longer it takes to transfer the forces the slower the acceleration…20 Gs rather then 80Gs…

      One fourth the force ,, means fewer than one tenth the concussions…!
      — When you reduce G forces below critical levels the concussion rate drops dramatically.

      We designed this headgear to solve all the problems you mention.

      You claim it would increase injuries do to friction..what friction..?

      The claim by helmet companies that they prevent skull fractures is a great cover , but the warning labels they hide behind to avoid liability for TBI and concussions is a sad tribute to the hard shell design …

      My design addresses long term forces that would cause skull fractures …!

      You do know that most of the skull fractures happened out of view of officials,, often a knee on the side of the head in the pile ups…..football was a ruff game played by ruff guys ,,

      So thanks for your concern for our players, but be sure the high rate of concussions can be addressed by redesigning the headgear, and protecting rather than injuring players with the equipment they wear..

      The hard shells of football helmets are like sledge hammers and they inflict the blow to the receiving player….totally preventable .. .!

      G. Malcolm Brown

      • Dan Kelleher February 6, 2013 at 21:12 #

        Once a football player receives a head injury, or is thought to have a head injury, the management of that injury is critical. The value of the work being done to to figure out how to best manage concussions cannot be overstated.

        But the comments of G.Malcolm Brown I don’t think should be ignored. What about prevention? Mr. Fink, won’t you like to not have to worry about head injuries? How do we know that it is not possible to design and manufacture a helmet that would significantly reduce the incidence of concussions? I don’t think we know that, and given the current state of affairs, we are not even close to finding out. Is anyone researching this? I am guessing Riddell and Schutt have done a lot of work in this area, but given pending litigation and being the official helmet of the NFL they won’t be coming out with any new ideas. There appear to be some independent researchers and small groups out there trying to do something. But liability and the likelihood of not making any money probably prevents them from getting any traction, and keeps others away.

        I think we need a Manhattan Project for improving football technology to reduce the incidence of concussions, Some government agency, academic institution, not-for-profit or other similar organization needs to pull together all of the people who are thinking about this and might have some ideas, and say we are not doing this so the smartest guy in the room can be a millionaire, but to save all of the players out there from serious brain injury, The NFL and NCAA have lots of money. Maybe a safer helmet doesn’t exist, but we need to make a serious effort to find out.

      • Dustin Fink February 6, 2013 at 22:56 #

        Listen you cannot prevent concussions, it’s a Pyhsics impossibility… However, reduction of exposure and limiting incidences of are and is possible…

      • Dustin Fink February 6, 2013 at 23:20 #

        And Dan,

        You are correct there is no harm in investigating the possibilities… You think a – check that many – companies are not and have not been trying to figure tis out? We are talking about billions – that’s with a ‘B’ – at stake if someone were to discover something better…

        My point is simple, why not start where a difference can be made NOW. It doesn’t help the likes of George, but he o wants no one to go through what he has…

        Dump money into medical coverage (athletic trainers), identification of injury (technology/imaging/bio markers) and proper management (rehabilitation/return to life)…

  6. Glenn Beckmann February 7, 2013 at 13:21 #

    Dan,
    What is it that you think the helmet makers do? Between Schutt and Riddell alone, millions of dollars are spent each year on research and development, looking for elusive improvements to helmet design. It’s not as if we’re sitting around, counting dollar bills and laughing about all the players who are getting hurt wearing our gear (although there are some on this blog who think that’s exactly what we do).

    Helmet makers have every moral and ethical incentive to make the best helmets we can and to keep improving them as best we can. You may not believe this, but I can speak for Schutt and I’ll bet the same goes for Riddell, but we really do care about the welfare of the boys and girls, young men and women who wear our gear.

    But, for the sake of argument, let’s say the Matt Chaneys of the world are right. Helmet makers are just the modern equivalent of the evil capitalist: nothing will get in the way of our making one more dollar. And the thousands of employees working for the helmet makers all have the same contempt for the health of all the kids playing football.

    Even if that’s the case, WE STILL HAVE EVERY FINANCIAL INCENTIVE TO MAKE A CONCUSSION REDUCING OR CONCUSSION PROOF HELMET.

    Think it thru. If we could truly claim to make a helmet that reduces or prevents concussions, do you have any idea how many we would sell? More than all the helmets made in the last 20 years would be my guess.

    So, even for the evil capitalist, it’s in our best interest to make better helmets.

    But, that doesn’t mean we have to follow every cockeyed idea that comes along, such as the soft-sided helmet, the no helmet, the no facemask helmet. Those ideas have all been tried and failed, or they’ve been left behind as obsolete ideas. Our helmet designs follow education and development in the scientific and medical communities. When they make an advancement, we move along with them.

    So your Manhattan Project is already being done. The smartest people in the world are focusing their efforts on the why’s, how’s, when’s and what if’s of concussion research. That is a slow process so I personally agree with Dustin’s position: while the R&D is going on behind the curtains, let’s focus on what we can do right now to help the kids who suffer injuries. In the meantime, let’s leave the hyperbole, rhetoric and shouting to the people who just want some windmills to joust with.

    • Dan Kelleher February 7, 2013 at 20:47 #

      Glenn, I believe Schutt and Riddell spend millions on research and development, are not evil capitalists, have an incentive to make a better helmet, and care about the people wearing their helmets. But given the lawsuits lined up against them, their primary goal has to be how to survive. They cannot be criticized for this. But there will be no real innovation coming out of these companies.

      Today the mayor of NYC Michael R. Bloomberg and some of his associates put together a $25 million package of donations to support research to try to cure ALS. That is a wonderful thing, Who is providing any money to independent researchers to to do research on improving the technology to prevent concussions? Mr. Fink, you say it is a ‘physics impossibility’ to prevent concussions. Has a physics researcher said that? If someone were to give the top 5 engineering schools in the country $5M each to study this, would they come up with something that looks like a Riddell or Schutt helmet? Maybe. But maybe not. Maybe some engineer out there would come up with a game changing idea. I don’t believe the potential technological improvements to football helmet designs have been sufficiently explored, I don’t think we can just say Riddell or Schutt would have done it if it could be done. But the football player has no constituency, and given the current state of affairs this independent research will never be done.

    • G.Malcolm Brown February 14, 2013 at 09:34 #

      Glenn,

      Yes, ,everyone has the same goal , Fink ,wants improved safe recovery,

      ,And , ,yes the helmet linings have improved … to their max…yet the numbers still need to be lowered…!

      The concept we are looking at is another step toward force reduction , reducing the sharp sudden impacts,,and lengthening time frames.

      Feel free to contact me.. artform@iwon.com

    • G.Malcolm Brown February 14, 2013 at 09:47 #

      Glenn,

      Yes, everyone has the same goal , Fink wants improved safe recovery,,,!

      And , ,yes the helmet linings have improved … to their max…yet the numbers still need to be lowered…!

      The concept we are looking at is another step toward force reduction , reducing the sharp sudden impacts,,and lengthening time frames.

      Feel free to contact me.. artform@iwon.com

  7. G.Malcolm Brown February 11, 2013 at 11:54 #

    Dan,

    Thanks again for trying to keep the door open to new headgear design…!

    Art Form has a design for helmets that will reduce a typical 80 G force H/H hit to well below 20 Gs….And the lower impact hits – of around 20 Gs to well below 5 G s.

    Reducing forces below high level marks dramatically reduces the number of concussions. Cutting forces in half , 80 to below 40 can reduce concussions more than eight fold.

    The next step appears to be finding a group or manufacturer to make a few prototypes…mount them on the present test stands..punch the big red button and see…!

    As the helmets hit..the forces will be as I stated or better,,,and most likely the test equipment calibration will be questioned and checked for malfunctions , jaws will drop..but smiles should follow. — Smiles on the faces of the people presently concerned about the effects of concussions in sports.

    Art Form is a design group with over forty years in new product development.

    Our intentions are to make some progress in reducing the number of concussions on football fields ,and in other sports.

    Dan –Thanks again,

    G. Malcolm Brown

    • Dan Kelleher February 11, 2013 at 20:18 #

      Malcom,

      Where are you with the design? Have you been able to produce any prototypes?

      • G.Malcolm Brown February 12, 2013 at 05:12 #

        We teamed with a talented Design Engineer and have worked up CAD concept images .

        In house we have worked with helmet shells provided by Stadium Systems …

        We contacted Priority Designs and toured their shop to find they are under contract to Rawlings….!

        Dan,,Thanks again,,

        G. Malcolm Brown

      • G.Malcolm Brown February 14, 2013 at 09:15 #

        Dan,

        Feel free to contact us … artform@iwon.com

  8. Mark L Ward July 10, 2013 at 22:15 #

    My son is in his senior year of high school football and has had several documented concussions. I am concerned for his safety and would certainly love for him to be able to wear one of Bill Simpsons helmets. Is there a release date for availability because I believe in any product that he has ever designed. Please notify me if there is a place that I can purchase one as soon as possible

    • Glenn Beckmann July 17, 2013 at 07:25 #

      Far be it from me to promote you purchasing a different helmet but they are available to buy now. http://www.sghelmets.com
      But Mark, please disregard all the hyperbole surrounding football helmets and go with this basic tenet:

      The best helmet for your son is the one that fits him the best.
      .
      The study recently completed of high school football players in Wisconsin showed there is no significant different in the rate of sports related concussions between helmet models. It also showed that there is no real difference between new helmets and older helmets (as long as they’re properly maintained and reconditioned).

      So, in essence, what we’ve been saying at Schutt Sports is true:
      helmets do two things very well: they protect your skull and they absorb direct linear impact.

      Our position is that no helmet can directly significantly reduce the rate or risk of concussions. There are many factors that are involved in the causation of concussions – factors that helmets can do virtually nothing about. Any company, organization or academic study that tells you otherwise is not telling you the truth.

      We have taken a look at the Simpson helmet and frankly (and not surprisingly) are not too impressed. It may be light but the one piece liner inside the helmet has no ventilation so it will likely be very hot (which should also be a major concern for all involved in football). It is certainly not half the weight of all football helmets. We make a helmet, the AiR XP Ultra Lite that weighs under 3 lb. Most of our helmets are under 4 lb (without a mask).

      Simpson has been an incredible force in the world of auto racing safety but the engineering principles behind an auto racing helmet and a football helmet are different. Auto racing helmets are “one and done.” Football helmets have to be able to withstand thousands and thousands of impacts without losing performance. It’s a difference the size of a chasm.

  9. Greg Panozzo April 4, 2014 at 05:49 #

    You sure can tell Glenn works for Schutt. With all concerns about concussions over the last few years and my son playing football, I have done a lot of reading and research on this subject. My son has worn a Riddell Speed a Schutt and now wears SG helmet and will continue to wear an SG for it is the best product on the market hands down. And I guess the only way to find out who has the best helmet would be to have a showdown bring your best product and put them to the the test, in front of the public not behind closed doors, or some research that’s funded by Riddell, and may the best helmet win.

    • Mark Aho June 16, 2014 at 17:44 #

      It would without question be the SG – 20 years in sporting goods and 30+ in coaching. Both my boys wear the SG – one left a Riddell and one a Schutt – and I’ve held both – the SG is that much lighter – used the “shock Box ” G-force sensor with all 3 helmets – One was 110 g’s, one was 116 g’s and the SG was 56 – Not a sterile testing envrioment, but right there in front of a ton of coaches, so it wasn’t rigged either. In my questions about the SG, I was told by the SG people that they have tested 1000’s of impacts on the same helmets and they do not weaken like the other “big boys” keep telling me (as a coach and reseller). I hear a little fear from the guys that SG should be leap frogging someday!

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